You act like you got nothing to lose...lololol....I mean, six figures times I don't know what, in debt, which isn't a deficite...I mean you can have it all up or down, and it all spells the same...it's not so much what you have or you don't have, but rather what it is tied too. We are good... It's much like the absurdity of folks assuming debt is a burden, when it's obviously of strategic value in terms of political maneuvers like sercuritizing underperforming debt, passing it off to foreign interests that you intend to link fates. Student debt to me is a smart institutional move. It's not this burden that is dragging the country down. Rather it is an instrument that can set the needed strategic moves for matters of industry. See...I'm not purely bitchy toward the industrial, but I do like the performative in relation. It's good at loosening up this tight ass stagnation that is so far removed from the 80s...even 70s and 60s, when it was less of a stick up the ass culture. A group wasn't positioning to even the stakes with the US. And I'm not knocking the pissery toward the US, even when in Europe. I actually got it, when I was hearing it, but I'm keeping quiet on a lot. There's something called, within certain forums, not my place, and I'm aware of that. Not as some absurd form of mindless subservience, too much of a honey badger for that shit, but simply noting, too many ideas in the fire, unless it's something that isn't coming around, like the dynamic arrangements of language...those having a lot to lose, easily require the forum. Sooo...you have the industrial crew who hung the American stars and moon, and as for the families that you know financed the grid over the pond...they did nothing? I'd be pissed too. It's not okay. There are these matters of afford on all sides, and I don't think anyone is really thumbing their nose, but people are skipping the books and forgetting, and there's accountability for that. See more of...that bullshit to follow, view the green links. Of course, it's performative messy, but it's mirror, mirror shit...Universal radio...I miss the 80s...we could all talk shit, put some glitter on it, because we could put the mirror, mirror play into perspective and dance the night away. We all have these experiences. It's like my issues with modern society and grid life. I'd rather live in a hut of some type, cook over a bon fire, eat turkey legs, drink goblets of wine, and maybe walk around naked in the woods. It just makes more sense this the way we live...and I'm not the only one...I'm the mini lot in life. I went to school with some mega lots in life. They go through it too...the fact that everyone is piling into a boat to finely have some fucking peace from the incessant smiling of hand up and hand out play...yeah, it's that type of bond. There really are these experiences, that wherever you...it's that moment of connection. It doesn't have to be explicitly stated...you just love it though. It's the same shit. The grid is necessary, but there are alot of us...we just want to run butt naked in the woods and dance around fire. We just do...we want to stay in the middle of the water and fish....no schedules, no lawyers, no shit hitting the fan...just at peace with matters more important...but this damn grid calls...so lights, camera, action...all to the stage, mini lots, mega lots, and messy lots...the show goes on, even if someone has to string us up for a number because we are...over it.
So back to student debt, I just don't think it is the right term. I don't think this should be debt, but rather something called an entirely different word. I think of this like a more modern form of tithes, for example. Meaning, this debt is of strategic value, and I'm kind of over this absurd play of, oh how we are all suffering, when once upon a time we were on PAYE...it no one should have had the legal right just to end the program we were on. We were on it. It should still be that...but now it's this odd battle, and I think there was a really good idea there. Meaning, people were signing up to join an institution, where the can opt in for education, along with a commitment to pay into that framework, of which some will invest for the long hall others a short hall. Dare I say...I don't think there should ever be debt forgiveness, but I don't like that term debt. I mean are we actual indebted if it is a small percentage of what we earn, I don't think so. It is something else, and that very concept seems to create friction in relation to something that could actually work, strategically. I don't think it should be forgiven for the long haulers, and maybe it's a lowering percentage as one enters their oldie goldies but the strategic debt remains indefinitely to play out as needed. But for the participant, no, I just reallly don't see this as debt, even though I'm to be the sufferer, the one who got duped by "student debt." I call bullshit. We just aren't thinking about this at all in the right way, not to mention...we are gunning for the institutional apparatus of it currently, which is going to fuck the country out of this strategic value if it all destabilizes...so I mean...who knows what this will be? I really am though against this notion of forgiveness (I expect pitchforks at work), and I am against this notion that it is debt. It is something that opened up a process...forget the mirror shit. It's a way of developing these rigors of process, maybe not at all educational forums...some are more in line with that, while others are more occupational technical with less investment, the mirror shit (which when you have a family, not superficial btw, I get that)...and I mean when it's not debt but more or less upholding what was something desired and likely appreciated, if we are not being superficial, yeah, it's one of those things where it does feel good to hold that ongoing connection. It's in part to say, we are upholding something that matters in terms of society, much like one among their spiritual forum holding connection with their institutional form. And again, to me, it's best not to forgive, rather, it might be one of those matters where it's always payment, and when you are in your senior years, the percentage drops significantly...but again, I do think in terms of strategic value, that debt needs to remain on the books. It really is of strategic value. And I think it's not a matter of say duping foreign interests per se. I mean there are arrangements where a win-win can be had, in relation to someone who is willing to hold that form of debt because they too want a linked fate with the United States. It's odd. I think there needs to be global finance even in high schools. Debt isn't what I think most people assume. It's not a hole in the ground, though I think in terms of credit card debt, the experience is like that. If one is "taking loans" or if one is "investing in" an institutional form where the arrangement states, you are committing, which will include payments of a percentage for a duration...and that is forum that works for you. I mean people pay tithes their whole lives for certain institutional forms. Are they in debt, or is it paying into something that is an avenue they support. I just question the way we are conceptualizing higher education. Much like is it a loan, or is it commitment access...and levels of commitment...now it sounds like scientology, lol, but yeah, even like that I guess. No one in scientology is screaming I'm indebted, I'm suffering...save me. And yet, a lot of institutional avenues work a similar arrangement. My only criticism of the existing educational model, is the lack of avenues for active and ongoing alumni participation that isn't requiring extra fees, but maybe tied to commitment access...in a way that isn't so...contrived. Physical library space, with secondary access to students, maybe being able to look at something but not being able to check out, for example...Limited space gym access. Limited online materials. And it's not so much about what an alumnus needs, but an easy way to keep a relation with the school...otherwise it does become this...I'm paying into something from a distant past, that I now have no relation with at all. It doesn't make much sense. There should always be an easy way for the alumni to actively participate that doesn't require much in terms of school resource and also works from a practical ease and appropriate relation for an alumnus. An alumnus wouldn't want to be a student, but rather...someone who was once a student, on a routine, and relating to the school that is relevant. I don't know. Just considerations.
It is a weird kind of scenario right now. It makes no sense whatsoever. Most of us were on PAYE. I take issue during the Biden era, we were moved, without permission to SAVE. I did not sign off on that. It should have not happened, but it did. I understand it was to improve terms, but the move should require our permission. It didn't. Then we have this absurd era now...and what can anyone really say about this shitshow. And we aren't renewing for a while, and everything is in limbo, and I think this might be in part because the forgiveness is going to be a problem in the long run. I could see that being the case. So, yeah, I think it can be a good thing, but it has to be reworked in a way that sustains a commitment and sustains a relation involving that commitment. It's not debt and loans to me. The concept needs to change. It's committing to an institutional form. Like one committing to other organization, and I think there needs to be an awareness of the levels of commitment in relation to background, community, etc.. Meaning if you have a family it's occupational-technical put food on the table, of a shorter duration and a practical outcome. Not debt, just a commitment level. Otherwise people think of debt, like credit card debt. The graduated and the are in a hole. The general population even has this irrational disposition as well, of students being duped, as being the ones now stigmatized, mindless rat maze participants, and yet, that shouldn't be the case at all. Someone made a commitment to an institutional form and that institutional arranged the terms, as any institution does. Someone agreed to those terms, and they are committed to those terms to a certain degree. That shouldn't be a stigmatizing matter. It should be respectable, like it is respectable for others to support an institutional avenue. People pay in to institutions all the time. Do these institutions cater to their needs when they do...not often. More so, these institutions serve as forums of active participation and opportunities for connection. I think that is where the higher education model needs to improve. I think there has always been the effort but again it's contrived. It's too...if we build it they will come type of matter, and I don't think that works. Just limited spaces among services already provided to students. It's just that easy. As it stands...it's a continued payment in, like other institutions, but there isn't ongoing participation outlets, that are relevant. Maybe it's as simple as alumni streaming services from the school, like sport events, that they can watch with their families for example. Maybe it's streaming table side talks. Again, reserved spaces in gyms, libraries, that are away from student life, and maybe intermingle a bit, that are fast access for adults on the go. Again I don't know...but I'm getting at how even this design, of a connection with the institution, then largely nothing relevant for easy connection for alumni, and yet, they are paying in...it does add to this conceptual notion of being in a whole, rather than belonging too and committed to an institutional form the invested into and support. Again, there does need, in my view, to be a conceptual shift. This to me isn't debt. It's just not, and yet similar arrangements, can be had, that are strategically useful.
